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Troop 91 Camping Guide

 

A parent's guide to the vagaries of camping equipment

 

(With special thanks to Troop 24 – Wilton for authoring much of this guide)

 

 

Rule 1: DO NOT MORTGAGE THE HOUSE.

            Although it appears you can spend $1,000 on equipment, you don't need to.

 

Rule 2: Use what you have until it proves itself unusable or unsuitable.

 

What's Important:

 

Sleeping Bag:

           

Use what you have until it proves itself unsuitable. A wool blanket (Army & Navy store for

less than $10) can make a 40°F sleeping bag suitable for most trips. The blanket would be

too heavy for backpacking.

 

If you buy:

            Stuff-ability: Be sure the bag can be stuffed into a "stuff sack". Have the sales people

demonstrate and buy the sack with the sleeping bag.

 

            Temperature rating: Pay attention to temperature ratings. If a bag is not rated, it probably is 40°F or higher and not advisable for a new purchase (remember rule #2) Buy a bag you can afford with a rating of 20°F or lower. 0°F or -5°F (or less) is recommended.

 

Goose down vs. synthetic filling (such as holofill, qualfill, loft lite, etc.) Goose down is usually warmer pound-for-pound, but loses insulating value when wet. The synthetics are usually slightly heavier but do not lose as much insulating value when

wet. This is a personal (i.e. $) choice. Either is good as long as it is properly temperature rated, sized adequately, and "stuffable".

 

Note: To promote longevity, do not store the bag stuffed in the sack. Hang it up.

 

Weight: Remember your son may have to carry this a few miles at times. Try to keep the weight less than 5 lbs. Less than 4 lbs. is best.

 

Mummy vs. rectangular:  Mummy bags are tapered and thus weigh less. They come with and without hoods. It is possible to buy a bag which is so snug that it is uncomfortable, so "try it on" for size prior to purchasing. Different models have different fits. Rectangular bags are roomier but weigh more.


 

Sleeping Pad:

 

Sleeping bag temperature ratings usually assume you are sleeping on a pad. There are several types of pads which can be divided into two major categories -foam, and self - inflatable. Although air mattresses may seem to be another alternative, they are difficult to use in the woods and do not stand the abuse. When buying a pad, be careful of the length. Full length pads are best for our purposes.

 

Foam pads: Make sure the pad is closed cell (i.e. won't absorb water). Ribbed pads are better than non-ribbed. These type pads are really all you need for weekend outings and are relatively inexpensive.

 

Self-inflating: These are the "Cadillacs" and the price reflects it. They are not necessary .If you buy one, buy the storage sack that goes with it. The type that folds in half for storage is easier to pack. Note: For longevity , don't store the pad in the bag. Lay it out, perhaps under a bed. .A pad that is full body length gives more protection from wet tent floors than a shorter pad.

 

Dining Gear:

 

Troop 91 provides cooking utensils and pots and pans for each Patrol. The basic essentials each camper needs are a plate, cup, knife, fork, and spoon. A small camper's pot can also useful (and a necessity on backpacking trips) for boiling water, cereal, etc. These can be obtained individually or as kits. The basic requirement is that they are unbreakable, washable, lightweight, and packable.

 

Silverware is available as metal snap-together kits or individual pieces made of "lexan" (i.e. unbreakable plastic). The lexan utensils are durable, inexpensive, and available as a knife, fork, spoon, and soup spoon. Either the metal or plastic utensils are functional, although the plastic utensils can be replaced individually if lost. A ziploc bag is a simple method of organizing/storing the plastic utensils. Zip lock bags are useful universally for organizing gear in simple, waterproof containers.

 

Clothing:

 

Troop 91 prides itself in camping once a month (there are few exceptions to this) despite the weather unless conditions are deemed dangerous. For this reason, it is imperative that each scout comes prepared for any conditions he may face that weekend. Remember; there is no bad weather, only bad choices in clothing. Plan on the worse case scenario. Believe me, your son does not want to be the one that causes the troop to bail out of a campout.

 

Hiking Boots: It is preferable that Scouts have hiking boots for our camping trips. Sneakers

simply do not offer enough protection to the foot from penetration of the sole or support to the ankle. The boots can be either leather or synthetic outer material. Although leather is best, for a Scout with growing feet, it is a bit expensive. Various lining materials are available. "Gore-tex" is often the most talked about. Gore-tex is a lining material and not the manufacturer of the boot. Gore-tex will definitely waterproof a boot (or anything else ) while allowing your feet to breathe properly. It also adds 50% to 100% to the price of boots. Unless you expect to have and use the boots for an extended period of time, Gore-tex is probably not worth the investment.

 

Socks: Scouts must also wear socks. A light sock with a heavier over-sock is ok. In most cases a

simple heavy sock is sufficient. Multiple pairs ofheavy socks are not recommended. Spare socks are a necessity. (packed in ziplock bag)

 

Long Pants: When in the woods, it is important that Scouts wear long pants. Shorts do not protect the lower leg from insects and scratches. Shorts are allowed however when conditions allow.

 

Rain Gear: Rain gear is a necessity on all camping trips. A poncho is relatively inexpensive rain gear. If it is the really inexpensive (i.e. $3) version, be thankful if it comes back from a trip in one piece, if it comes back at all. As a backup, send a large garbage bag in which slits can be cut for the head and arms. Rain suits (with and without Gore-tex linings) are also available. They cost significantly more than a poncho however.

 

Hat: Every scout should pack a hat. A cap can protect him from the sun in the summer and a warmer hat can keep him warm in the cooler months. I have found that wearing a hat when sleeping can help keep a scout warm. Like they say: “If your feet are cold, put a hat on”. Most of the body’s heat is lost through the head.

 

Layering: It is far more comfortable and warmer to layer clothes for the cold weather than

to use a single heavily-insulated winter coat.

 

Important Accessories:

 

Flashlight: Each Scout should have his own flashlight on all camping trips. A small inexpensive pocket model is sufficient. Larger flashlights are fine also, but will add more weight to the pack.

 

Water bottle -Each Scout must carry a water bottle (yes, with water in it). Whether this is a canteen or a plastic soda bottle with re-sealable lid is unimportant. He must be able to carry the bottle without the use of his hands, and it must be accessible. Shoulder straps or carriers with belt loops

are fine.

 

First Aid Kit: The troop has first aid supplies at all outings. Each Scout should carry some minor first aid supplies, such as bandages, moleskin, etc. Nothing elaborate or expensive is required. Each Scout is required to assemble a sample kit as part of his Second Class requirements.

 

Backpacks:

 

A backpack is desirable and a necessity on some trips where we carry our gear to remote sites. However, many of our trips involve practically driving up to the front door of our campsite. On these trips, a soft suitcase or preferably a duffel bag will suffice. The basic requirement is that a Scout can fit all his clothes, equipment, and food (excluding the sleeping bag and pad) into one bag which can be stored outside the tent ( covered with a large garbage bag) overnight. Eventually, every Scout should have a backpack. The troop has a steady flow of donated backpacks on a regular basis, so don’t be shy. Ask one of the leaders if there is a pack available.

 

Backpacks are available in two different types; External frame, and internal frame.

 

External frame packs have external metal (or plastic) frames from which the actual pack can be detached. Internal frame packs have metal (or plastic) pieces built into the pack for structure. On all modem overnight packs, the majority of the loaded pack's weight is carried on the hips via a padded waist belt. Packs without this feature should not be considered for a new purchase (remember rule #2). They are probably daypacks, which put all the weight on the shoulders. Weight on the shoulders is extremely fatiguing, even for day hikes.

 

External frame packs:

 

These are available as fixed frames or adjustable frames. Adjustable frames allow adjustment of the frame to the body and are better. Avoid plastic frames. .Multiple pockets are useful to keep food, clothing, toiletry articles, etc. separate. Two main compartments with three to four side pockets is ideal although not necessary.

 

Top loading versus panel loading is a totally personal preference. Although top loading may seem preferable, if the top pocket is deep, it is hard to keep things organized. If a panel loaded pack is laid flat, unzipping the panel reveals everything in the pack. Both have their proponents.

 

Capacity of all serious backpacks is rated in cubic inches. A pack rated between 4,000 and 5,000 cubic inches is ideal for all Boy Scout trips (including high adventure camping as your son gets older). A pack this size may be unwieldy for younger Scouts, so consider one about 3,300 cubic inches first. Bungee cords (sold separately) may be used to attach sleeping bags and pads to the frame.

 

Internal frame packs:

 

The major advantage of internal frame packs is they do not have a frame to get in the way when cross-country skiing, bushwhacking through unused trails or virgin country , rock climbing, etc. This is such a small part of our program, that an internal frame pack offers no real advantage in our program. .They are also generally lighter than external frame packs, and more comfortable. However, you must know how to pack and how to properly adjust the backpack for this to be a significant advantage. These advantages are so significant to serious backpackers that you will find more manufacturers and models of internal frame packs than external frame packs. The actual advantage for Boy Scout outings is questionable.

 

The disadvantages of internal frame packs are:

 

Cost. They are significantly more expensive than external frame packs. .You will not find as many pockets on internal frame packs. This is not a disadvantage to serious backpackers who often use ziploc bags ( or other type bags) to separate items into compartments

 

Additional Gear:

 

Knife: Scouts may carry pocket knives on camping trips after they receive their "Tote-n- Chip", which instructs them on the proper care and use off knives. Sheathed knives, switchblades, etc. are not permitted. A simple knife such as the standard Boy Scout knife or the "Tinker" model of the Swiss Army knife is all that is needed.

 

Compass: Compass work is part of the Second Class and First Class requirements. Since the troop does some orienteering each year, it would be nice for each Scout to have his own compass. It is best if the compass has a plastic base plate. A simple compass, such as the Boy Scout "Polaris" is all that is needed.

 

Stoves Tents, and Lanterns: Troop 91 provides each patrol with these items. The operation of stoves and lanterns is limited to those scouts who have demonstrated the proper use and care of them.

 

Pillow: Scouts can make pillows by stuffmg clothes into their sleeping bag stuffsacks. Some Scouts bring small pillows with them when we go to convenient camps such as Hidden Valley. Camping pillows are available from camping stores, but are not necessary.

 

Rope It is a good idea for each Scout to bring some lightweight cord or twine with him (25 ft.or so). It can be used for a variety of things including a clothesline. 550 Cord (white or olive drab) is very strong, lightweight, and doesn't unravel. Military stores and catalogs carry this.

 

Sources for Equipment:

 

(obviously , this is not a promotion of any of these outlets and surely there are others)

 

Stores such as Walmart, Kmart, EMS, LL Bean, Army & Navy stores and mail order companies like Campmore, Sierra, etc. have everything your son should need.

 

EMS has a “Club Sale” every April (I think it is) where members of outdoors clubs like the Boy Scouts of America are given discounts for the day.

 

Mail order is not always the least expensive place to purchase camping equipment. Also, if you need to "try it on", it's difficult to do with mail order. The best source is field-tested (i.e. used) merchandise that your friends, neighbors, family no longer need.

 

The above information is provided based on the type of camping we do in the troop. We recognize there are points and counterpoints to each of the above statements. If confused, abide by Rules #1 and #2 or ask us. If you plan on doing camping outside the troop, such as climbing Mount Everest or spending a week in January in Old Forge in your own natural shelter, please ignore the above article including (especially) Rules #1 and #2 Good Luck!

 

 

 

Winter Camping List

 

CLOTHING:

Poncho or rain gear

1-2 sweatshirt- 1 with hood

1 Heavy jacket

1 Snow pants

1 pair of waterproof boots

1 pair of sneakers

1-2 pair of gloves

2-3 pair of long pants or jeans

1-2 pair of thermal underwear or sweat pants

2-3 underwear

3-4 pair of socks

 

EQUIPMENT:

Boy Scout Handbook

1 pillow

Cold Weather sleeping bag

flashlight and extra batteries

waterproof matches and tinder

1-2 Large garbage bags

Cup, spoon, fork, bowl or plate

Toilet paper

Towel, washcloth, soap, comb, toothbrush, toothpaste, small plastic bag for wet stuff, and mess kit. knife (ONLY if you have earned and are carrying your totin' chit)

 

OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT:

Safety pins, Needle and thread, clothes pins, small rope, canteen,

Kleenex, compass, wicks for fire starters or dryer lint, insect repellent, 2-3 hand hot packs.

 

RADIOS, CD PLAYERS, AND ELECTRONIC GAMES, AND EXTRA CANDY/SODA ARE NOT ALLOWED.


Summer Camping List

 

 

 

CLOTHING:

 

Poncho or rain gear

1-2 sweatshirt- 1 with hood

1 Light jacket

1 pair of boots

1 pair of sneakers

2-3 pair of long pants or jeans or sweat pants

2-3 underwear

3-4 pair of socks

 

EQUIPMENT:

 

Boy Scout Handbook

pillow

Sleeping bag

flashlight and extra batteries

waterproof matches and tinder

1-2 Large garbage bags

Cup, spoon, fork, bowl or plate

Toilet paper

Towel, washcloth, soap, comb, toothbrush, toothpaste, small plastic bag for wet stuff, and mess kit. knife (ONLY if you have earned and are carrying your totin' chit)

 

 

OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT:

safety pins, Needle and thread, clothes pins, small rope, canteen, Kleenex, compass, wicks for fire starters or dryer lint, insect repellent, 2-3 hand hot packs.

RADIOS, CD PLAYERS, AND ELECTRONIC GAMES, AND EXTRA CANDY/SODA ARE NOT ALLOWED.

 


Additional Notes

 

Troop 91 will go on a camping trip once a month if possible. The third weekend of each month will be our regularly scheduled camping trip. Exceptions and details will be announced by the Senior Patrol Leader. The Troop will camp under its own registered leadership, always using the "two-deep" adult leadership policy of the BSA.

 

Troop 91 will have a variety of campouts, each a little (or a lot) different from each other. We will pack accordingly. Announcements will be made by the Senior Patrol Leader advising the boys of considerations they need to make.

 

Scouts will cook by patrol on all camping trips unless given other instructions by the Senior Patrol

Leader and Scoutmaster. Cooking by patrol helps strengthen the patrol and teaches teamwork.

 

Scouts carry their packs to the campsite instead of riding because physical fitness and self-reliance are two of our objectives. Scouts learn not only how to do things for themselves, but also how much they can do. Troop 91's camping emphasis is on adventure rather than convenience. Scout camping demands skill and know-how.

 

Use of gas stoves and lanterns are restricted to adults and to scouts who have individually demonstrated their ability to use them, and have special permission from the Scoutmaster. NO FLAMES IN TENTS! ! !

 

We will leave nothing behind anywhere. We will bury no garbage or trash. Combustible material may be burned if local regulations permit; otherwise, carry it back home along with cans, bottles, and foil; or deposit trash in receptacles if available.

 

Parents are welcome on Troop 91 camping trips as long as they agree to abide by the same rules as the boys, and have first consulted with the Scoutmaster. We ask Adults to not smoke in the presence of Scouts. Parents will prepare meals and camp where assigned by the Senior Patrol Leader. You are along as an observer and, if asked, a helper. Adults are not allowed to tent in the same areas as the boys. Parents will be asked to tent with the adult leaders, and will not be allowed to tent with their son’s patrol.

 

A scout’s misconduct on a Troop camping trip will not be tolerated and may result in cancellation of the rest of the trip. This applies to ALL who are participating on a Troop camping trip. The Scoutmaster and/or designated Campmaster have final say in all matters concerning Troop camping policy while on a camping trip.

 

Each Scout, in order to participate in a specific trip, MUST have a permission slip for that activity

signed by a parent or guardian, and turned in at the regular Scout meeting designated (usually two meetings prior to the trip).